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Ancestors of James Wilson

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Tue, 10/01/2012 - 11:11am
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John Horton
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Ancestors of James Wilson

James Wilson, it is agreed, and his wife Catherine Boak, are the ancestors of those Wilsons who ultimately emigrated to Tasmania and established themselves predominantly in the Oatlands district. This is confirmed by the historical records. For many years it was accepted that James Wilson was the son of John Wilson and Ann Etherington of Wilsontown fame. When no confirmation of that could be found we started looking around for other contenders, but the Wilson name (and it's variations Willson, Wilsone etc.) are common and the potential matches are numerous. This topic is for discussion regarding those potential matches, and related issues.

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Sat, 07/01/2012 - 11:44am
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The grave of James Wilson

The grave of a James Wilson is in the same graveyard as that mentioned in the post on The Wilson-Boag (Boak) Connection. The inscription is transcribed as:

1798
This stone was erected by James Wilson
to the memory of his father,
James Wilson
who died Dec 3rd 1787,
aged 63 years
And also of his son,
David Wilson
who died in infancy1

The elder James died on 7 December 1789 according to the Old Parish Records2 (1787 Dec 7 James Wilson from Corston) Note the Corston reference. Is this James Wilson the father of the James Wilson (b.1751) who married Catharine Boak?

 (Could the following represent his family?)

James Wilson (b. 1724) married Mary Davison (alt. spelling Davidson) (bapt. 12 Jun 1718) 3 (June 12th James Davidson + Christian Hardie had a child baptised called Mary Witness Robert Davison Alex~r Davison) Married 9th Nov 17504
 (November 9th 1750 James Wilson and Mary Davison both in this Paroch being lawfully proclaimed were married this day)

  • James Wilson (bapt. 8/10/1751) Parish Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian5 (October 8th James Wilson and his wife Mary Davison had a child baptised named James. Witnesses Thomas Robb and David Wilson)
  • William Wilson (bapt. 14/8/1753) Parish Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian6
  • Unknown Wilson (bapt. 10/11/1755) Parish Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian7
  • John Wilson (bapt. 19/10/1756) Parish Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian8
  • Margrat Wilson (bapt. 21/11/1762) Parish Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian9

What is interesting about this information is that there are two possible links to ‘our’ James Wilson - the Corston reference, and the reference to infant David Wilson who died around the time suggested for the first David Wilson (son of James Wilson and Catherine Boag).

  • 1. Uphall on the Web http://www.uphall.org/downloads/stnicholas-gravestones.pdf prepared by Mr. Harry MacPherson
  • 2. GROS OPR Deaths 694/00 0020 0244 Mid Calder

  • 3. GROS OPR Births 672/00 0020 0005 Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian
  • 4. GROS OPR Banns & Marriages 672/00 0020 0240 Uphall or Strathbrock, West Lothian
  • 5. GROS OPR Births 672/00 0020 0055

  • 6. GROS OPR Births 672/00 0020 0059
  • 7. GROS OPR Births 672/00 0020 0061
  • 8. GROS OPR Births 672/00 0020 0064
  • 9. GROS OPR Births 672/00 0020 0074


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Tue, 10/01/2012 - 12:17pm
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Death and Burial of James Wilson

While others have found this headstone previously, and noted the potential relationship, it was never pursued due to lack of additional evidence. Sue Liston has provided that by locating a death registration that matches the headstone for a James Wilson of Corston, the known location of James Wilson who married Catherine Boak. The Wilson surname is common, but the additional reference to a deceased son David is enough to confirm that the death and headstone refer to James Wilson, the father of James Wilson who married Catherine Boak.

Given the age stated on the headstone Sue has also provided a potential family for James, and this family has been researched previously by Margaret Rackham as early as 2003, with one additional child:

  • James WILSON (M): C: 8 Oct 1751, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland1
  • William WILSON (M): C: 14 Aug 1753, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland2
  • WILSON (F): C: 10 Nov 1755, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland3
  • John WILSON (M): C: 19 Oct 1756, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland4
  • Jullian WILLSON (F): C: 22 Apr 1759, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland5
  • Margrat WILSON (F): C: 21 Nov 1762, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland6

There may be other candidate families that will be added to this topic as research progresses.

  • 1. IGI Ba: C116722, FR223, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 2. IGI Ba: C116722, FR227, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 3. IGI Ba: C116722, FR229, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 4. IGI Ba: C116722, FR232, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 5. IGI Ba: C116722, FR237, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 6. IGI Ba: C116722, FR242, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
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Tue, 10/01/2012 - 1:27pm
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Related Family for James Wilson

Margaret Rackham also believed the following family may represent James Wilson's family but as we now know James' father was James, not David. The use of the name Julian Wilson however and their location in Uphall suggests that perhaps James Wilson (Snr). and David Wilson were brothers:

David Wilson and Margaret Auld married 2 February 1854 in Mid Calder (1754 Feb 2 David Wilson, Uphall & Margaret Auld)1 and had the following children:

  • Julian WILSON (M): C: 10 Mar 1755, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland2
  • David WILSON (M): C: 23 Dec 1756, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland3
  • Robert WILLSON (M): C: 11 Jan 1759, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland4
  • James WILLSON (M): C: 14 Sep 1761, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland5
  • William WILLSON (M): C: 1 Aug 1763, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland6
  • George WILLSON (M): C: 30 Aug 1765, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland7
  • Alexander WILLSON (M): C: 14 Aug 1767, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland8
  • Janet WILLSON (F): C: 20 Feb 1770, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland9
  • William WILLSON (M): C: 3 Jun 1772, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland10
  • John WILLSON (M): C: 8 Oct 1773, Uphall, West Lothian, Scotland11
  • Gabriel WILSON (M): C: 10 Jun 1777, Kirknewton And East Calder, West Lothian, Scotland12

Note that David Wilson Junior honoured his parents David Wilson and Margaret Auld by erecting a headstone in the St. Nicholas Cemetery where James Wilson (Snr.) was also buried:

This stone is erected by David Wilson farmer
in Letham
In memory of David Wilson, his father, who died in June 1784, aged 72. And also
Margaret Auld
his mother who died 1807
aged 7513

  • 1. GROS OPR Marriages 694/00 0020 0212 Mid Calder
  • 2. IGI Ba: C116722, FR229, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 3. IGI Ba: C116722, FR233, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 4. IGI Ba: C116722, FR236, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 5. IGI Ba: C116722, FR241, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 6. IGI Ba: C116722, FR243, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 7. IGI Ba: C116722, FR245, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 8. IGI Ba: C116722, FR247, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 9. IGI Ba: C116722, FR254, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 10. IGI Ba: C116722, FR260, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 11. IGI Ba: C116722, FR263, So: 1066638, Pr: 6902415
  • 12. IGI Ba: C116905, FR666, So: 1067763...
  • 13. Uphall on the Web http://www.uphall.org/downloads/stnicholas-gravestones.pdf prepared by Mr. Harry MacPherson
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Wed, 11/01/2012 - 3:15pm
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James and David Wilson possibly brothers

If James and David are brothers, then David Wilson (1712-1784) could well be the witness mentioned at the baptism of James (b.1751) son of James and Mary Davison.

James Wilson (bapt. 8/10/1751) Parish Uphall or Strathbrock /West Lothian OPR Births 672/00 0020 0055
[October 8th James Wilson and his wife Mary Davison had a child baptised named James. Witnesses Thomas Robb and David Wilson]

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Thu, 12/01/2012 - 10:12am
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Relationship of James and David Wilson

There have been many developments in the last few days that will take some time to fully research but we are probably jumping ahead of ourselves by trying to work out the relationship of James Wilson and David Wilson at this point. Helen Brown, a notable Wilson researcher, discussing David Wilson and Margaret Auld, remembered that:

Margaret Rackham found their deaths and the reports of biers being sent to Corston Farm to take them to Uphall churchyard when she was in Edinburgh years ago. David WILSON was tenant of Corston Farm, in Uphall, and James WILSON was "plowman" (i.e. 2nd in command on the farm) at the same time.

Helen also provided a report detailing a potential arrangement of the Wilson Family of Uphall that would suggest that James and David Wilson were in fact second cousins as demonstrated in the following chart:

Potential Wilson Relationship

Note that this relationship is not substantiated, and that there were two couples with the name David Wilson and Margaret Auld, just to add to the potential confusion. At this stage all this means is that it is too early to determine their relationship with accuracy, but we will attempt over time to reveal as much as supported by the historical record.

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Mon, 30/01/2012 - 7:12pm
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Wilson Family of Uphall

This discussion has been incorporated into The Wilson Family of Uphall section.

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Tue, 14/05/2013 - 1:39pm
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Traditional family name analysis

Based on the traditional Scottish naming pattern, an analysis of the christian names of each of the families of the ten children of James WILSON and Catherine BOAK, has proved somewhat inconclusive. Of the known children, one died young - David (c 1788-c 1789); two possibly never married - Willian (1786-?); and John (1801-1877); and had no known children. Of the remaining children, two were females - Mary (1782-?) who married John WHITE; and Margaret (1798-1875) who married William BYRES; and their children's naming pattern would partially apply to the paternal side of these other family surnames. Some of the remaining children who married, did not have sufficient children, or sufficient males to give an indication of possible grandparents, particularly on the paternal side.

The family christian names of first child Mary, suggested her grandparents might be James WILSON and Mary (DAVIDSON ?); and the christian names of other children seem to sugges a more likely set of grandparents of William, James or Thomas WILSON and Catherine ..... (?). None of the names on the WILSON side seem to suggest the possibility of grandparents with names of James WILSON and Margaret (AULD ?). The wide variations in the results would possibly suggest that the parents did not adhere strictly to the traditional naming patterns which is not unusual. An analysis of the christian names in the successive (great-grandchildren's) families, may offer more possibilities.

The results were -

Child 1 2 5 6 7 8 10
Surname WHITE WILSON WILSON WILSON WILSON BYERS WILSON
Possible Paternal Grandfather James James Thomas James James James George
Possible Paternal Grandmother Christian Mary Catherine   Catherine Isabella Jane
Surname WILSON PATERSON CRAWFORD THOMPSON BRODIE WILSON BROCK
Possible Maternal Grandfather William William Alexander Thomas     James
Possible Maternal Grandmother Catherine Catherine Agnes Mary Jane Catherine Margaret
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